tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post8268330289972423814..comments2024-02-29T03:34:23.190-05:00Comments on Who Were the Sea Peoples?: The world of physics cannot condemn the world of everyday experience as illusory without so condemning itselfgcallahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10065877215969589482noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-9172617402456848302014-10-06T14:23:03.201-04:002014-10-06T14:23:03.201-04:00You should read some Nils Bohr. I think you will l...You should read some Nils Bohr. I think you will like what he has to say. He makes some similar arguments. Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08207803092348071005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-25094603437450283142014-10-05T22:03:56.989-04:002014-10-05T22:03:56.989-04:00In a sense, the "our rational mind and common...In a sense, the "our rational mind and common sense are just not capable of understanding the true nature of reality" crack is making the same point you are, though in a more confused (or disingenuous, depending on how generous you are) way.<br /><br />A more accurate statement would be that extrapolating our everyday experience to scales and realms with which we have no experience can lead us astray. Our everyday experience with walls and baseballs led humans to posit that the building blocks of matter must be tiny hard spheres or blocks. But of course this is an abstraction and an extrapolation from a scale at which it makes sense to a completely different scale with which we have no direct experience, so it shouldn't be completely shocking that physics actually tells us that atoms are mostly vacuum.shonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369367271546487712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-22974079537461539982014-10-05T19:50:54.946-04:002014-10-05T19:50:54.946-04:00Channeling Ayn Rand: it's not your sensory dat...Channeling Ayn Rand: it's not your sensory data is faulty, it's that your processing of it is faulty.Samson Corwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10148822362930969284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-75441024250292963872014-10-05T18:50:15.214-04:002014-10-05T18:50:15.214-04:00I definitely like the spirit of what you're sa...I definitely like the spirit of what you're saying here, Gene, but to plug a hole in your armor: What if someone says, "Hang on Callahan, did you just 'prove' that illusions don't exist, period? I mean, if I can't trust my eyes in the desert when I think I see water, how can I trust me eyes when I read in a book that it talks about 'mirages'?"Bob Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-37552732797722613192014-10-05T18:00:49.364-04:002014-10-05T18:00:49.364-04:00I dislike the "sense data" move in philo...I dislike the "sense data" move in philosophy because it just invites moving in this direction, as if our senses and what they receive are not also part of the world. Once one starting talking about "sense data" one has already created a conceptual gulf which seems almost designed to block clear thinking.Lorenzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305933404442191098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-10364520975578818932014-10-05T15:16:16.905-04:002014-10-05T15:16:16.905-04:00"One dodge that might try to avoid the force ..."One dodge that might try to avoid the force of this argument is noting that physics, in some sense, 'works.'"<br /><br />I absolutely ****ing hate it when scientists or engineers pull this. It is so obviously bad, but they use it anyway, implying that talking about reality has to do with getting something to run.Samson Corwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10148822362930969284noreply@blogger.com