tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post3785993797617692255..comments2024-02-29T03:34:23.190-05:00Comments on Who Were the Sea Peoples?: If I Had a Third-String, I'd Send It In!gcallahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10065877215969589482noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-56894403012550365722014-08-07T14:21:28.292-04:002014-08-07T14:21:28.292-04:00'But you can't establish that the Nation-S...'But you can't establish that the Nation-State has such legitimacy, by merely asserting that it has this right "just like any other group."'<br /><br />Of course not: I have readily admitted, in print, several times, that of course if one thinks the nation-state is illegitimate, then it has no legitimate right to do anything!<br /><br />This argument is simply noting that immigration is not, as libertarians sometimes contend, some SPECIAL problem in terms of the state. Of course, if it is illegitimate, it can't legitimately control immigration! But if it is legitimate, then immigration control is no more problematic than is the Spurs controlling their roster.gcallahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065877215969589482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7225373.post-64815608699510775132014-08-07T14:01:33.826-04:002014-08-07T14:01:33.826-04:00Just because you make frequent sports analogies do...Just because you make frequent sports analogies doesn't make you cool...<br /><br />OK let's try it like this, Gene. What would the world look like, if a particular group of people did *not* "have the right to control who became a member of the group"?<br /><br />As with almost all of our arguments, the dispute boils down to legitimacy. What looks like "unwarranted interference with a group's ability to pick its own members" is equivalent to "perfectly fine establishment of the boundaries within which a subsidiary group may act" once you agree with the legitimacy of the larger group.<br /><br />But you can't establish that the Nation-State has such legitimacy, by merely asserting that it has this right "just like any other group."Bob Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.com