I decided to move some discussion from this post up to the top level here. Specifically, Watoosh wrote: "Well, if violence is defined as initiation of force (which, of course, presupposes certain property rights), then I think Rockwell is correct..." Well, if we define cats as elephants, then many people keep elephants in their house. More seriously, firstly, violence is not usually defined that way. It's defined as, you know, violence, so that, say, someone may respond violently or non-violently to someone who aggresses against them. Otherwise, it would make no sense to say, for instance, "He punched me, but I did not stoop to violence in response." And, secondly, the libertarian usage of "initiation of force" is very offbeat. If I wander onto someone's meadow, most people would not say I had "initiated force" -- I mean, sure, I used "force" against the earth to push off walking, but that's not force directed against...
A very sober and well thought out analysis of your vote.
ReplyDeleteOne would not expect it from the man who "Rock the non vote" many years ago.
I do not like Clinton much either and I do not follow the election very closely so I may have missed it, but is there really evidence that she is guilty of 'inciting her supporters to bully anyone supporting Trump, sometimes violently assaulting Trump voters, sometimes destroying their property, and sometimes trying to deny them their livelihoods.'?
ReplyDeleteYes. Trump is being depicted as the next Hitler. Therefore his supporters are Nazis. And certainly it would be fine to beat up Nazis to stop them from taking over!
DeleteTry this:
Deletehttp://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/no-human-is-irredeemable/
That article points to this one:
Deletehttp://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/09/hillary-clintons-47-percent-moment-calls-trump-supporters-racist-sexist-homophobic-xenophobic-islamaphobic/
Clinton does call half of Trump supporters 'racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic'.
I would agree this could be interpreted as potentially inflammatory - but it would be stretch to say this constitutes 'inciting her supporters to bully anyone supporting Trump, sometimes violently assaulting Trump voters, sometimes destroying their property, and sometimes trying to deny them their livelihoods.'
"And certainly it would be fine to beat up Nazis to stop them from taking over!"
DeleteHas Clinton said this? Would this be fine? I do not believe it would be fine.