Hobbes May Have Been Wrong; He Was Not Dumb
A commenter in another thread claims that someone like Hobbes is talking "nonsense" with his contract theory: "They make this claim [it's not clear what "this claim" is here], but that is not what happened, and to claim it is 'as if' it happened is utter nonsense -- on par with claiming that the state of affairs [in a robbery] is 'as if' you gave me all your stuff, so I'm not a thief, and really do own these things." It strikes me that others may misunderstand Hobbes's argument in a similar fashion, and so it might be worth pulling my response to the top level. Let's begin by looking at several examples where we use "as if" that aren't nonsensical: 1) Two people meet by accident and fall in love. Later, they say, "Do you remember that night? It is as if we were meant to meet!" 2) Four bridge lovers meet by accident on a cruise. They wind up playing together the whole vacation. One of them ...