I decided to move some discussion from this post up to the top level here. Specifically, Watoosh wrote: "Well, if violence is defined as initiation of force (which, of course, presupposes certain property rights), then I think Rockwell is correct..." Well, if we define cats as elephants, then many people keep elephants in their house. More seriously, firstly, violence is not usually defined that way. It's defined as, you know, violence, so that, say, someone may respond violently or non-violently to someone who aggresses against them. Otherwise, it would make no sense to say, for instance, "He punched me, but I did not stoop to violence in response." And, secondly, the libertarian usage of "initiation of force" is very offbeat. If I wander onto someone's meadow, most people would not say I had "initiated force" -- I mean, sure, I used "force" against the earth to push off walking, but that's not force directed against...
Mmmm.... More lettuce....
ReplyDeleteOh, right, heh heh. My comment on that post was part of Gene's plan. I used my slug mating call.
ReplyDeleteIt really is funny, though, that when you call Lew Rockwell a cult leader, his fans get upset. That's just what you would expect from cult members.
ReplyDelete"I used my slug mating call."
ReplyDeleteYes, thanks for working with me on that one.
Bob, there's a little difference between "get upset" and "start a vicious smear campaign."
ReplyDeleteHave you read Voegelin's A New Science of Politics yet?
By the way, this trait is well-known in libertarian circles -- when a friend of mine was interviewing people on a related topic, he said he heard from many people, "Yeah, I could talk to you about this, but don't use my name -- I couldn't take the smear campaign LVMI would start against me if you revealed my identity."
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ReplyDeleteBob, there's a little difference between "get upset" and "start a vicious smear campaign."
I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not talking about the Reason piece of investigative journalism, I'm talking about your slug trap. I.e. it sounded like you were saying, "Can you believe these pawns? All I do is mock their heroes, and then they go and write me nasty comments in my trap. All part of my master plan, moo hoo ha HA!"
But if you got that, then I am unaware of a vicious smear campaign against you.
Oh and no, I didn't read that book. Did I say I would?
ReplyDeleteI only like slug traps with beer.
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