I decided to move some discussion from this post up to the top level here. Specifically, Watoosh wrote: "Well, if violence is defined as initiation of force (which, of course, presupposes certain property rights), then I think Rockwell is correct..." Well, if we define cats as elephants, then many people keep elephants in their house. More seriously, firstly, violence is not usually defined that way. It's defined as, you know, violence, so that, say, someone may respond violently or non-violently to someone who aggresses against them. Otherwise, it would make no sense to say, for instance, "He punched me, but I did not stoop to violence in response." And, secondly, the libertarian usage of "initiation of force" is very offbeat. If I wander onto someone's meadow, most people would not say I had "initiated force" -- I mean, sure, I used "force" against the earth to push off walking, but that's not force directed against...
This is how I deal with Customer Service "Sympathizers".
ReplyDeleteCS: I sympathize with your problem.
Me: Let me ask you something, when the mother of a close friend dies, do you offer sympathy?
CS: Of course.
Me: Do you ask your friend to pay you by the hour when you offer sympathy?
CS: (nervous laughter) No.
Me: Are you getting paid to talk to me?
CS: Yes.
Me: OK then talking about sympathy is a sneaky trick that customer service teachers teach to get people off the phone with out solving problems. Now I know you probably hate big bureaucratic organizations as much as I do and seeing as you are getting paid for helping me and you sound much more intelligent than most customer service people I talk to, please help me as a friend and forget what they teach you in those long boring classes. Now I bought this stuff and it doesn't work, can it be fixed or are you just going to give me a refund.
Note: Say all this stuff with the right tone of voice (a let's have fun voice). Keep on mentioning that they are getting paid to talk to you and keep zeroing on getting the problem solved. They usually know what the tricks are to get a problem solved and will sometimes go to extraordinary steps to solve the problem, when you deal with th CS agent in this manner.
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