I decided to move some discussion from this post up to the top level here. Specifically, Watoosh wrote: "Well, if violence is defined as initiation of force (which, of course, presupposes certain property rights), then I think Rockwell is correct..." Well, if we define cats as elephants, then many people keep elephants in their house. More seriously, firstly, violence is not usually defined that way. It's defined as, you know, violence, so that, say, someone may respond violently or non-violently to someone who aggresses against them. Otherwise, it would make no sense to say, for instance, "He punched me, but I did not stoop to violence in response." And, secondly, the libertarian usage of "initiation of force" is very offbeat. If I wander onto someone's meadow, most people would not say I had "initiated force" -- I mean, sure, I used "force" against the earth to push off walking, but that's not force directed against...
He probably relied on Samuelson's textbook.
ReplyDeleteI loved Asimov's Foundation series when I first read it (7th grade, I think) but realize now that his outlook, as opposed to that of Heinlein, Banks, most other authors that I've enjoyed, is, if not statist, quite thoroughly of the opinion that society needs to be run. By someone. I have always found this surprising, given his personal history.
ReplyDeleteLook at the entire premise of the Foundation series, and try to imagine the person who wrote it pondering anarchism. Look at his stories of UNIVAC, where all our problems were solved because we finally had a computer that could run the economy and the government efficiently.
He probably thought that the USSR would struggle on, because he couldn't see that something could be fundamentally wrong with trying to run an economy in a top-down manner.
Right-o, Andy, and consider a very different take on much the same subject: Heinlien's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
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